Tekstvak: Todays calle Barcelonina is a small/short street. Because of the big renewals at the start of the 20th century in Valencia, the calle Barcelonina has been widened/shortened/renamed and house numbering is adapted to wider building blocks. The exact place is difficult to find, but on the 1945 maps of Valencia a part of the old numbering has been drawn in and it now apears to be the last 2 houses of the street, also facing the plaza Rodrigo Botet.
Nr 15 was Marín’s office/storage/shop; nr 17 his living house and workshop
Apart from the fact that nr 15 /17 were also in use as barbershop; milk selling; watch maker, the Barcelonina street housed different musical shops during a long period.   

In the Anuario Musical de España ed.1930 11 there were in this street at:
nr 9: Juan Morant: Fábrica de Acordeones y Copia de musica p. acordeon =seller of another Barrios guitar !
nr 3: Rafael Torres: Fábrica de Acordeones & Wharehouse of Musical instruments
nr 15/17: Andrés Marín: querdas, bordones; Fábrica de Guitarras y Bandurrias 
Earlier there were the acordeon factories of Rafael Abad(23); José Ballester(15;8); Rafael Torres (13;8;9;3)
In 1915 Musical editor/instrument ware house Antonio Sánchez Ferris was at nr 23 and at the square, opposite Andrés Marín.
Sánchez formerly held his store at Arzobispo Mayoral nr 11, exactly where Julve started his business in 1909.21

By Ton Bogaard

  TELESFORO JULVE       

Andrés Marín                           also: Marinieta; ROCA

Mangoré

Marín guitars ranged from modest till highly decorated and precisely built.

Neat harmonic struts/stiffeners in “Torres patterns” are seen. His rosettes were precision crafted. 

 

Marín guitars were sought for and the best known is the Mangoré guitar.

Augustin Barrios Mangoré (*1885 †1944)-Paraguay- was player/composer and acc. to insiders at least as great as Segovia. He used to play a Marín guitar like below:

The 50.000 guarani note from Paraguay shows the Andrés Marín guitar  and Augustin Barrios Mangoré.

(Value approx € 10,=)

Marín guitar

Where was Andrés Marín? 

Quite close to Valencia’s city hall (Plaza del Caudillo is todays Plazza del Ayuntamiento) > Plaza Rodrigo Botet

Examples of Andrés Marín labels inside guitars: (chronologic)

Tekstvak: 1945: Dolores Marín Soucase 
(1929-2010), doughter of Andrés Marín Collado, starts her own
business as string maker and later 
(~1955) sets up her guitar production together with the second generation 
of guitar builders of the Cañete family 
(Rafael and Salvador) from Turís.   
The first generation of Cañetes 
did work for Andrés Marín 1).
Fabrication was executed in Turís (near Valencia) while polishing and finishing was done in Xirivella.
 She named her works
“Marinieta”(=grandchild of Marín) 
The company existed from 1945 untill 1959.
Dolores was known  in Valencia for being the first woman driving her own car (“a strong and tough lady with a clear business vision”).

Dolores married José Roca Navarro (*19?? - 19??†)
In 1957 the couple split up and 
Dolores went to Mallorca, giving 
up her guitar business.
Her, now ex-, partner José Roca 
noticed the increasing demand 
of guitars and he decided to set 
up a new business with the 
remains of Marinieta, after Dolores
has been leaving.
And so José founded his own company ROCA in 1959. Just at that moment the market of guitars was growing, José’s electrical education suited him very wel for the towering demand for amplified/electric guitars. 
ROCA expanded further to calle Escolana which became their storage and office location.
After 20 years ROCA stopped all activities in the year 1979 in a declining market for spanish guitars, which was then saturated with cheap Far-East types of instruments.

Read more 
  on ROCA

Andrés Marín Simón (*1858—1928)

Andrés was born in Villarroya de Pinares-Teruel (the same village where the Julve family lived) and moved to Valencia in ~ 1871. He lived near the Plaza de Mercado, the area where most guitar constructors worked, and in 1885 his profesion is noted as servant. Once he moved to the Barcelonina 17, his profesion is noted as clerk (1890).

At that same adress used to live luthier  Agustín Almonecil and his wife Mariana Ortega Navarrete (both came from Turís).  After Almonecil dies in 1888, Andrés marries Mariana, the widow.

Just a few years later Mariana died and Andrés inherited the business that Mariana owned from her former husband Agustín.

Later Andrés married Mariana’s niece Librada Collado Ortega (again from Turís). 

 

For some time (1898-1909) Telesforo Julve worked for Andrés Marín1 together with Juan Vert Carbonell. 

Marín was Verts’ uncle and Maecenas.

Juan Vert is known in Spain as a composer

of zarzuelas. Well known compositions are

 “La del Soto del Parral” and

“La leyenda del beso” (Legend of a kiss),

composed by Soutullo and Vert.

 

In 1908 Andrés Marín runs a guitar

factory at street General Prim no. 19 (Ruzafa).

(this may be due to the rebuilding of Barcelonina 17 and 15; finished in 1911)

 

In 1909 Telesforo Julve leaves Marín to start up his own guitar factory together with Armengol and Lloréns.

Marín ordered and delivered various parts

from/to Julve. Barter trade between them is noted.

 

After 1930 (caused by the 1929 N.Y. stock exchange crash; Andrés Maríns dead?) Marin’s  guitar business slows down to make more way for  photographs and photographic materials plus grammaphones and radio equipment.

                                  =See the ads. below=

 

                       Son:           

                       Andrés Marín Collado,

                         (*1897-1974), son of

                       Andrés Marín Simón.

 

 

 

Note that in 1934 Telesforo Julve gets an order to deliver various guitars to Argentina   “tipo Marín”. Julve kept also many Marín catalogues with and without prices and he supplied lots of strings and a few instruments to Andrés Marín in 1941-’42 period.

 

All years long the name “Andrés Marín” was kept same as it was back in 1882, becoming de facto a trade name.

 

Turís, 1960: “Mijubal” was founded by 3 former pupils of  Andrés Marín.

Family information is kindly supplied by     María D. Roca Marín.

Andrés Marín, Salvador Ibáñez and Telesforo Julve were at close range from each other (3min. walk).

 

Frequent contacts between all Valencian luthiers were common those days.

From these advertisements in 2 different guides of Valencia from 1932 it looks like Marín stopped his guitar production to start with film+ photography, gramophones + discs and radios.

Known addresses:

        for Andrés Marín:

1890: Barcelonina,17

1910-’15  Barcelonina,17

             + General Prim 19  21

1930  Barcelonina 15 / 17  11

19??  Barcelonina 11

1945  Hermanas Chabat, 11 

19??  Avenida Oeste, 29, 8a

1953  Conde Altea, 2  20

 

     for Dolores Marín:

1953 Barón de Cárcer,35

1958 Escolana, 20

 

      for ROCA:

196?>1979 Escolana, 25

Plan: ca 1945 ©Archivo Municipal de Valencia      arrows pointed at nrs 15 and 17

                                                                 (former houseblock shapes are added)

Andrés Marín started his business in ~1895, calling himself successor of A.Almonacil, who lived at the same address: Barcelonina 17. (fact: Andrés was successor of the Viuda of A. Almonecil)

The phrase “sucesor of A.Almonecil” was still in use in 1914 (26 years after Almonecil died)

 

Marín took Almonecils’ label as his own, by simply changing the name.

Ornamented                    Striking soundboard                    Ordinary type                             Well crafted rosette

                                                     Pattern

Other typical examples of Marín guitars:

Tekstvak: CLICK for
history tree

Cementerio General de Valencia:

Agustín Almonecil Lozano

 

Mariana Ortega Navarrete

 

Andrés Marín Simón

 

Librada Collado Ortega

1882 refers to .. ?? ??

Tekstvak: False?